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nissannx
07-26-2009, 06:40 PM
I wasn't able to attend yesterday, but I'd love to hear/see what took place? Could I get an update?

My car's been sitting in the garage just gathering dust and I've been to busy to do anything about it.

tashko
07-26-2009, 07:12 PM
Frank, the ATTS was today! We're just getting home. Some will get there later as the 401 was shut down around Morningside for a jumper. The cops were trying to talk him out of it and I guess they had to close all the lanes to keep the noise down.

As for the ATTS, it was another good one! Dry for morning practice sessions and then WET during the lunch break when the organisers were doing their practice runs. Man, I didn't realise how slick that track was when it starts raining! Super slippy! It got a little better with some heavier rain and then the sky cleared and the track started drying for the final practice runs.

The timed runs were done on a dry track. It was fun! Congrats to SteveD for setting FTD and taking the C-class win!! :pint:

I think the top three times in most classes were within one second.

:)

STeveD
07-26-2009, 09:49 PM
Thanks Tashko! That lunchtime lapping SURE was crazy! The grip was SO POOR that I was hopping curbs that I would never think of hopping just because it was the only way to rotate the car.

Under 30 psi in the tires and still no grip. Softened the compression 10 clicks, softened the rebound 3 clicks.... still to stiff. Jenn and I were going to drop compression and tire pressures a little more when I spun off and dug furrows between 1&2 after the curb hop. The rain was so hard that I had to reconnect the A/C compressor because the windshield was fogging up without it. (I disconnected it after KOTH and left it that way...)

My unsuccessful lunchtime search to find somone to clean the tire beads meant that I met Craig's friends from Blaszak Motorsports at the big track. But no dice... Fortunately, the R-888's didn't lose air.

So as soon as Jon W got to the clerking station after his timed run, I went to join Group C. I used the A/C to pull air through the FMIC... thought I shut it off... sound familiar? So anyway... I was out for my timed lap with the softer 'rain" setting from lunch on a nearly dry track.

Jacques Villeneuve style (crash to learn the limits, then back off a bit) I almost put it off on the first warm up lap just past the west "kink"! I went over the bump and suddenly the car floated all the way to the outside. (Rain settings!!!) My left tires were partway on the grass again, but it stopped sliding left. Whew!

My timed lap had braking/downshift to 2nd mistakes coming onto the top and bottom straights. I missed my intended turn in mistakes... but ATTS is about making fewer mistakes than everyone else on the lap that matters. Perhaps karma owed me something after it messed with my brakes on the timed run of the Gynkhana! :-)

I want to congratulate the organizer, timers, scrutineers, DJ Jeff, Mau, and all of the volunteers on a spectacularly run event! It made clerking really easy for Jon and I!

P.S.: Damn! I had your test kit with me, Tashko! I'll get it to you somehow. :-)

Navigator
07-27-2009, 08:43 AM
What a day, everything worked out great right down to the rain only coming down during lunch. Having never lapped the DDT in this direction I can tell you that having to go CCW will never be as fun. The track flows nicely in the CW direction. For the first time after an event at DDT I look forward to going back.
The only thing set up on the car was tire pressure. Wish I had more then 5 laps of practise in the dry, and during dinner I found out that there were a couple of lines I could have done better.

Fantastic event. Fantastic crowd. Thanks Joe for organizing and Steve for clerking.

Cant wait for the Touge, its gonna be wild.

nissannx
07-27-2009, 08:43 AM
Sounds like a fun time. And I knew the event was Sunday - couldn't have made that either. Congratulations SteveD! That's awesome!

JoeT
07-27-2009, 09:38 AM
Hi All,

Thanks for attending, it takes a huge amount of organization and concerted efforts to put something like that together. The audience and the format is new for most that attended, meaning that there were lots of potentials for organization errors. We took the lessons learned from event 1 and applied them here (except for the microphone battery) and from the perspective of the organizers, seemed to function well.

We're looking for feedback (good and bad) on how we can improve. The net result will be a better, more fun, more exciting event for newcomers.

The official results will be posted on the SPDA and www.atts-online.ca web site within the next couple of days. But until then, here's some interesting stats:

Here are some stats:

70 Advanced Registered competitors
60 Acutal competitors
58 running, 2 out due to mechanical (Mike A and I)

3 X 20 Minute lapping sessions for 4 classes
1 Time attack session for 4 classes (2 warmup + 1 HOT + 1 cool down)

Prizes for the day:
1st Place Royal Purple Oil X 1 Case + 1st Place Plaque / Class
2nd Place Royal Purple Duffle Bag + 2nd Place Plaque / Class
3rd Place Royal Purple Hat + 3rd Place Plaque / class

Draw Prize Giveaways
Sprint Booster ($300.00 Value)
HAWK Pads ($200 - $500 Value)
Talon Tire Gift Certificate ($100.00)
1 X Solosprint Entry ($150 ish)

FTD: 60.828 Clockwise configuration with 1 kink on the south west.

Incidents = 0
DNF's = 2
Fun Factor 100%

A HUGE Thanks goes out to the competitors, since without you there would be no event. You guys braved the potential adverse weather to come out and enjoy the day. Luckilly for us, the Marshals and everyone I spoke to except for Klaus, had a conversation with Mother Nature, and she cooperated with a bit of concession.

Sunny and dry in the morning, very WET during the lunch break, sunny and dry during the afternoon sessions. It couldn't have turned out any better than that.

Also a HUGE thanks to the team members that put this together, whom without, would have made it impossible to assemble this event.

Lastly, a double HUGE thanks to our sponsors, JRP, Toyo Tires, Talon Tires, Hawk, Royal Purple, Forge Motorsports, Apex-I, Vibrant Performance, etc.

Next event is Dunville Autodrome in 1 month, with Touge.

Up for grabs still for series points = over $10K worth of stuff.

1st overall = $3000 in product + Series Trophy
2nd overall = $2000 in product + Series Trophy
3rd overall = $1000 in product + Series Trophy
4th overall = $750 in product + Series Trophy
5th overall = $750.00 in product + Series Trophy

STeveD
07-27-2009, 10:00 AM
Navigator wrote:

Cant wait for the Touge, its gonna be wild.

Yes, everyone gets a free rabbit to chase, or a wolf to hound them! THAT's pressure! Sort of like staggered KOTH, but closer competiton!

JoeT
07-27-2009, 10:27 AM

Toysrus
07-27-2009, 11:01 AM

JoeT
07-27-2009, 11:10 AM

Navigator
07-27-2009, 11:48 AM

GTibyJB
07-27-2009, 01:11 PM

Cavemanrjc
07-27-2009, 01:14 PM

Toysrus
07-27-2009, 02:41 PM

Toysrus
07-27-2009, 02:43 PM

JoeT
07-27-2009, 03:12 PM

Navigator
07-27-2009, 04:23 PM

STeveD
07-27-2009, 04:36 PM

tashko
07-27-2009, 06:17 PM

STeveD
07-27-2009, 07:05 PM

Nuwan
07-27-2009, 11:22 PM
Photos of all the event and prize winners can be found here. (http://spda-online.ca/modules/xoopsgallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=albuo41&page=2)

http://www.spda-online.ca/modules/xoopsgallery/cache/albums/albuo41/atts_2_004sm.jpg

http://www.spda-online.ca/modules/xoopsgallery/cache/albums/albuo41/atts_2_029sm.jpg

Mel's thought's on the event...
http://www.spda-online.ca/modules/xoopsgallery/cache/albums/albuo41/atts_2_034sm.jpg

And my personal favorite; awesome shirt Paul...
http://www.spda-online.ca/modules/xoopsgallery/cache/albums/albuo41/atts_2_026sm.jpg

RyanB
07-27-2009, 11:24 PM
Yea I think I got some of you entering by the tent where we were standing I have to go through them and then put them up somewhere.

Fentin_Fury
07-28-2009, 06:52 AM
I like the upcoming track - although have only lapped there and am familiar with the run off areas. Thanks to SPDA and the sponsors for a great time.

Note: adding drain to catch can. (alternatively empty catch can more than once every two years.). Sorry about the smoke Mike!

miatagirl77
07-28-2009, 07:55 AM
That was after driving Ivano's car :-D

Cavemanrjc
07-28-2009, 10:30 AM
Ill bring bigger hose next time Q
It was funny watching you try to drain oil with a 3/16 vac hose though.

Fentin_Fury
07-28-2009, 12:15 PM
Yes Rob- what ever was in that hose tasted mighty fine!

STeveD
07-28-2009, 12:26 PM
Darn it! I left the video camera at home on my desk that morning!!! And the GPS logger cable with it! ARGH!

I thought I had run this configuration earlier this spring but I was wrong. I have NEVER run this complete configuration. Last time I ran the outside SE line was 2004 at a Fourstar Motorsports (http://www.fourstarmotorsports.com)track day before I really learned to drive. So lunchtime rain lapping was a REALLY new experience to find that fastest route through there!

For anyone new to the track, here's the (Nascar-style) track map that I learned from the Ian law Car Control Track School (http://www.carcontrolschool.com/) in 2004 or 2005:

DDT Rule #1: If you have any kind of horsepower, late apex onto / off of the top and bottom straights. That crap that the corners are patched with has NO GRIP and you want to be on the throttle as soon as possible. So cut across the patches as soon as you can and spend as few feet as possible on them.

Assuming that the track is dry, and that your Royal Purple (http://www.royalpurple.com/)oil temperature is up after the Hawk Performance (http://www.hawkperformance.com) warm up laps to get heat into the brakes and tires:

Turn 1 for horsepower cars: Late apex and don't track out more than 2/3 or else you'll compromise your entry for two. Power through on those Toyo Tires (http://www.teamtoyo.ca)and sacrifice turn 1's exit for turn 2 entry because turn two's exit lasts a lot longer than turn 1. And turn 2 matters more. (Low HP momentum cars, you can track out in one as long as it doesn't compromise your ability to be flat through two.)

Turn 2: Be nearly on the right inside grass for the left turn entry to turn 2b (2a doesn't matter) and turn a bit late for this. If your right tires aren't nearly on the right side grass before turning in, you're going too wide in 1. Goal is to be flat on the throttle past the apex to carry speed to turn 3. Scott @ Can-Alignment's (http://www.canalignment.com)setup had the fresh Talon Tire (http://www.talontire.com)supplied Toyos sticking as the car settled and stayed flat out from just after turn-in to the braking zone for turn 3.

Turn 3: A tap or a lift to settle the car, and late apex it... inner curb doesn't matter until you're on the downhill. Use the right curb for your braking and turn in for 4.

Turn 4 (left past the clerking / marshal station): Get as close to that inside cone as you dare, then nudge her right and get back flat on the throttle straight through to 7.

Turn 5 right: Hey! No cone! Use that HotBits (http://www.hotbits.ca)rally inspired tarmac suspension with the wonderful fast compression dampening and 5mm thick strut walls to absorb the impact without a blink as you cut over that new extension of the right inside curb!

Turn 6 (gentle downhill right): I didn't track out more than half way past turn 5, so I cut the inside of turn six and dove straight for the turn in point of Turn 7 onto the back straight like Bob Varey taught me to do at the BMW Advanced Driving Schools (http://www.trillium-bmwclub.ca/site/page.jsp?DriverTraining)in Turn 8 on the Big Track. The same short cutting and momentum approach concept applies here, and you shouldn't be on the outside curb coming down the hill.

Turn 7: Surprisingly, this divebomb line into 7 has phenomenal braking grip even in that crazy slippery wet lunchtime organizer session! The Toyo's (http://www.teamtoyo.ca)were hauled down by the Performance Friction (http://www.performancefriction.com)97 compound pads from Dan @ FourstarMotorsports on the rotors that JRP (http://www.jrponline.com)supplied to me at their usual amazing price! With the caliper piston venting and knockback springs done by KVR Performance (http://www.kvrperformance.com), brake fade hasn't been a concern for years. I just stand on the brakes. as needed Late apex onto the back straight cutting the back side of the inner curb to stay off that chewed up concrete patch. Start slamming through the Marino's Subaru (http://www.marinosautogroup.com/)gears with that bulletproof Bully Clutch (http://www.bullyclutch.com/)and use the massive racing torque of that Fourstar Motorsports (http://www.fourtstarmotorsports.com)tune to short shift down the back straight.

Turn 8 right: Silly braking in the wet leaving the back straight, eh? If your suspension can handle it, get your left tires up on the left rumble strip for braking and pitch the car in to the right and get on the gas fast to oversteer slightly and cut the low inside curb as close to the cone as you dare and climb that right hander as quickly as possible. Don't force the car right. Clip the left edge as you straighten the curves and head up for turn 9 left.

Turn 9 left: Follow Ian Law (http://www.carcontrolschool.com) instructor James Mewett (master of the DDT ;-) ) and you learn to get far to the right (Nice new for 2009 paved asphalt extension here!), stay on the throttle with your right foot, give the brake a tap with your left foot to weight transfer forward and (horsepower line) late apex over the newly Mosport lowered inside left curb as close to the cone as you dare. Don't track out more than half-way if you have horsepower, or it will compromise your speed into 10 and consequently all the way up the back straight. Get on the gas flat at the late apex of 9, and don't lift until you're braking for the front straight.

If you're a momentum car, you might not lift after the back straight, or just do a gentle lift (no brake tap) and go geometric apex here and track as far out as you can as long as it doesn't hurt your ability to be flat on the throttle past turn 10 apex and all the way to the front straight. If you have to lift for 10, don't exit that wide in 9.

Turn 10 right: Wave to the marshal from MMS (http://www.motorsportmarshalling.on.ca)as you clip the new low concrete extension on the HADA Motorsport (http://www.hadamotorsport.com)line that Guillermo showed me with your Hotbits coilover suspension (http://www.hotbits.ca).

Turn 11 right West kink/hump: Tighten your sphincter, look into the Turn 12 braking zone, turn in late, clip the inside and have faith that she'll stick after you crest the hump. Scott @ CanAlignment[dot]com (http://www.canalignment.com)measured my minimal bump steer during the corner balance he did for me, so I knew she wouldn't get squirrelly before she settled into the incline before the braking zone onto the front straight.

Turn 12 right onto the front SPDA (http://spda-online.ca) ATTS (http://www.attacktime.ca)timing straight: Late apex, right wheels up on the concrete curbing, and Subaru (http://www.marinosautogroup.com) second gear power through the timing beam.

And that's been a SPDA-online.ca (http://SPDA-online.ca), in stock at JRP (http://www.jrponline.com), ATTS (http://www.attacktime.ca)lap of the DDT, Driven to Perform by Toyo Tires! (http://www.teamtoyo.ca)

Thank you all for coming! Good night!

Navigator
07-28-2009, 04:01 PM
WOW!

Nuwan
07-28-2009, 07:56 PM
Wow indeed...

Steve's been dipping into the redbull

oldguy
07-28-2009, 08:17 PM
http://www.casc.on.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=17342&page=2

shanehutton
07-30-2009, 09:46 PM
Anyone have photos of the cars?